But in the conflict between Athens and Sparta I think a lot could have been gained if they had joined together. --in the way the Romans did. I never learned that part of their history very well but my impression was the Patricians versus the Plebeians came to a great resolution with the Roman Constitution. The Tribune who was immune from all hurt or lawsuits and whose person and property were sacrosanct had has his job nothing more or less than the protection of the Plebeians. And if this can be transferred to the USA then there is great hope. In my mind these last 20 years of really evil people as president will be in the future just a bad dream and a temporary interruption of American Destiny.